[0:02] Jaclyn Strominger

We're recording! Okay, welcome everybody to the Unstoppable Success Podcast. I am your host, Jaclyn Strominger, and as you know, on this podcast, we hear from amazing individuals, leaders, professionals. They get to share their tips, their insights, and their wisdom so that you can have unstoppable success. And today, I am so excited to introduce you to Pearl Chiarenza. She is the founder of Women's Successful Living, a Say YES to You Life Coach, author, speaker, retreat facilitator, and she's the host of the Soulful Self-Care Conversations podcast. For more than a decade, she has helped women stop putting themselves last, set boundaries without guilt, and step into what she calls their SHERO self. Strong, Happy, Empowered, Radiant, and Original. I love that. And her message is one that I think every high achiever needs to hear, whether you're a male or a female, saying yes to yourself isn't selfish. Sometimes it's the most important success strategy of all, so...

Welcome, Pearl, to Unstoppable Success!

[1:20] Pearl Chiarenza

Hey, Jaclyn, thanks so much for having me. I love hearing... You know, we never often hear our bio too often, so I love that, because it's like, yeah, step up to yourself, like, be that strong, happy, empowered, radiant, original person, and it's so fun to hear it, because when I get to watch the women that I work with step into, I'm like, yeah, that's what they're doing, so thanks for sharing that.

[1:40] Jaclyn Strominger

Oh, you're welcome. Okay, so... Kind of like to jump in, you've built this entire brand around saying yes to you. So... Was there that moment in your own life when you realized you had become really good at saying yes to everyone, except yourself?

[2:01] Pearl Chiarenza

Well, that moment took me until my oldest was a senior in high school, so I was much, much older, which is only, like, 10 years ago. Okay. And the reason why is my husband and I, we got married very young. I asked him to marry me at the young age of 20 years old, but... Which is a fun story. But anyway, so, we tried for 10 years to have kids, and so we were... While we were trying, we were having fun trying, of course. Of course, when we were doing traveling and all these things that we were doing together as a couple. And then we got the phone call that Matt was available for adoption, and so we're like, yeah, you know, we went and we adopted Matthew. We were very honored and blessed to have him be our son, and then 2 years later, we had our younger son, Nate, through in vitro.

So we had struggled for, you know, 12 years having children, and so when... Motherhood happened for me at that blessing, I kind of, like, literally took Pearl off the shelf, and put her on the shelf, and said, okay, I've had fun, let's go be a mom. Which led to, and if anybody's a mom, you know, or a parent, they know it led to so many things, like, I'm a volunteer, I'm a wife, you know, I take care of the house, I go get the cupcakes for the school PTA, I do all these things. I literally, for one, almost two years of my son's... My oldest son Matt's football life, or Nate's baseball life, I was eyes behind a camera. Like, I would watch them with a camera, because I would video them and everything.

So, I was doing health and wellness, and it was 2014 to 2015, And I had so many clients that would come to me and say, hey, you know, I love when I sit down with you. It was a very strict program we were coaching on, and I love when I sit down, you don't make me feel guilty, because I've had all these things I'm not supposed to have. Will you talk to my friend? So, this one friend led the many friends to other friends to have tea dates that I was doing these conversations for free. And I finally said, alright, God, what are you telling me I'm supposed to do here? And it called on my heart to start looking into life coaching. And so I took this Identity and Destiny course, and it was a 6-week course, and at the end, we're supposed to say our I AM statement.

I met an amazing friend, Shannon, in that course, and I said my I AM statement. I am Pearl, I'm a wife, I'm a mom, and da-da-da-da-da, and she looks at me, she said, where have you been for 6 weeks? Like, who are you? And I literally walked out that night. And I was like, where have I been? For not just 6 weeks, for, like, almost 10 years, you know, and 12 years, and I was like, I gotta figure this stuff out. So, I decided... I went home that day. And I told my husband and my kids, and I said, listen, unless the house is on fire, don't bother me. Every day I come home, I need to go do something for myself, whether I come downstairs, I read a book, go take a bath, take a nap, whatever it is, I have to do this.

So, if you are sick or anything, Dad will bring you to the hospital, and I'll catch up with you later. That's how bad I was. And so that's when it started, and it's not easy, because saying no to others was like, oh my god, they're gonna think I'm selfish, I don't like them, I don't care, all those thoughts that sabotage our brain, right? And so one day, I was walking into this network meeting, and I'm a huge people-pleasing addict, and I was walking in. And I saw this rock on the ground, and I picked up this beautiful rock, and I stuck it in my pocket. I went into the meeting, and at the end, somebody's like, hey, Pearl, can you help with, like, some sort of animal fundraiser? The old me would have said, yeah, what time do you need me? I...

My hand went down, hit the rock in my pocket, and I literally stood there and go, no, I can't do that. Just like I said it to you just now. And I sat there for a minute, they're like, okay, do you know anybody? And I was like, oh yeah, I know so-and-so and so-and-so. So I walked out of there thinking, I didn't get struck by lightning, they're still talking to me, they asked me for more help in a different way. So, I made a commitment that that rock, for 30 days, I had to move it 3 times a day, saying no to something or someone, and if I didn't, at the end of the day, I had to either call, email, or text somebody no. By the end of, like, the first week, I was feeling better, and that's where the word strong came up, because I was stronger in saying no to others.

And then, how many women listening to us, and men too. Wake up in the middle of the night going, oh my god, I didn't email that person, I didn't get the cupcakes done, I didn't do this, I didn't do that, that was me. I no longer was doing that, which meant I was now happier, I was taking care of me, I wasn't stressed out, I wasn't snapping at my kids because they forgot whatever at school. And then that led me to become empowered, empowered to share the story. Like, take me off the shelf and actually step... I took a Dale Carnegie course about speaking on stage. I'd quieted that for so long. I'm like, let me go share this message with others, which I wrote books and everything now from that. And then the cool thing was, Jaclyn, is I'd walk into rooms, and people are like. Girl, what's so different about you? Like, did you lose weight?

Did you cut your hair? I'm like, no, I'm just saying no. And I literally would tell people that. They would look at me and go, what do you mean by that? I'm like, I'm just telling people no. Don't ask me to do anything, because I might tell you no if I don't want to do it. And so, the funny thing of all of that... Is growing up, I want to be a teacher in school. I want to be a, like, kindergarten, first grade teacher in school. And I never had the opportunity to go do that, didn't get guided through counselors to go do that, but now I jokingly say I'm originally that person still, because now, all those little girls they might have had when they were in kindergarten, I get to coach them now into the new generation of saying yes to themselves. So that's how it all started for me. I know that was a long explanation, but...

[7:25] Jaclyn Strominger

No, no, no, I love it. No, it's absolutely fantastic. And it's interesting because we, you know... The origin story for so many of us of what makes us... What makes us who we are, and why we do what we do, and... And... You know, and it's real, because, like, you know, there's so many people that I know that can relate to that, you know, and it's... And I feel like it's one of those things... That... I talk about sometimes till I'm blue in the face. It's... It's... You have to say... You have to understand that the most powerful and most successful strategic word is no. No to the things that don't align with, A, who you are, what you want to do, what your goals are, where you want to go in life. And it's... Saying no to the... To those things, so you can say yes to the right things.

[8:22] Pearl Chiarenza

100%. Yeah. I mean, the whole thing is, like, we're so scared to say no. I talk about, especially when I stand on stage, you might make me... I'll hear you and make you say no, because I think you can say no like you want a million dollars. We say yes so happily, just say no happily, because when you say no, just like you said, it means you're opening the door to something else. And the hard part is, and I just did this with a client this morning, our family can be some of the biggest people to guilt us into, why are you not doing that? I have a client right now that every year at the holidays. Her and her immediate family, her and her kids, they go on vacation. And so the family's like, the other family's like, well, we want to do something at Christmas, we haven't seen you. I was like, no, I...

This is what we do. And now. The person is like, oh, mom or dad would want us there, oh, we're gonna miss the family. No, this is what I want, this is what's important to me, so this is what we are doing. I... My story, if you follow me, I talk about how I divorced my parents because of this type of behavior, because of the behavior towards my... My oldest son was mixed race, Matthew was mixed race, so as my dad got older, he became racist towards my son. My mother would... My parents divorced after 43 years of marriage, so my mother would put, like... This narcissist stuff on me about why, at one point in my life I tried to have a relationship with my dad, which I severed it again because of his behaviors. And I tell people, I've divorced my parents. And they're like, how can you do that? I'm like, okay, wait, let's have a conversation.

If my husband treated me this way, would you want me to stay? There's answers always, no. Then why do I accept it from them? The best advice I got was from my priest one time at church. He's like, Pearl, God picks your parents, we love them, but you don't have to like them, and they don't have to stay in your playground of your life. And that's what I do. And the funny thing about that story, Jaclyn, is just in March, I took over the health part of my mother's life. Because she has dementia, she's very bad in that dementia stage, and so me, I want to honor her. She doesn't know who she is at this moment, so this is the person that I want to make sure that she's taken care of. I still do it in my boundaries. I see her 3 days a week only, and you know what it is?

It's to go in and say, who are we calling to say hello to, and then I leave. So I still have my boundaries, but I made sure she's taken care of.

[10:38] Jaclyn Strominger

But that's a key thing, it's the boundaries, right? And so that's actually a really cool... A really great thing. You know, when you're sitting there saying about divorcing your parents, I... I don't wanna... I don't wanna laugh, but I was like, it's so important because we... You know, we say it all the time, you know, you can't... Pick your family, but you can make your friend family.

[10:57] Pearl Chiarenza

Yeah.

[10:57] Jaclyn Strominger

Sometimes the friend-family is the strongest bond. And it's funny that you, you know, sort of talk about that, you know, when I... When I first and I'm just thinking about being a mom, when I first gave birth and some struggles and all that stuff, you know, to get to the first ba- to get to the first baby. And I have two kids. But, I remember my... My... My mom would come into my house. And she would sort of pontificate her ways, which, you know, and she would also then, some days, like, if she was staying at my house, if I left. I would come back, and things were moved around, because she would re-decorate. There was one day, we were living in an apartment, and this is... I still laugh at this. I came in, and it was like, I looked at the mantle, and everything was gone, and I'm like, we've been robbed! Right?

[11:48] Pearl Chiarenza

And then I...

[11:49] Jaclyn Strominger

Turned, and I'm like, wait, it's on the sofa! And my... So I was like, what the frick is going on? So I'm like... I'm like, Mom, did... Did something happen this morning? And she's like, oh yeah, I started to rearrange the things on your mantle, and I lost track of time, and I just ended up leaving it there. I'm like... So, okay, now, all of you moms and dads can understand this embarrassing moment that I'm going to share with you. So, I literally was just, like, there was one day I had it, I'm in my daughter's room, and I just start spewing the complaints, and of course, the monitor is there, and then, of course, they could hear. And it... But... But I will say, I mean, it... It... My parents were so upset, but at the same time, it made us have a conversation. Right? Like, it brought... And it's funny, because not... It was...

It's actually a lesson that I shared this morning, like, we have... When you start feeling that friction. You have to use your voice so that you... It doesn't get to where I started spewing into a baby monitor, right?

[12:55] Pearl Chiarenza

Right.

[12:56] Jaclyn Strominger

But you have to use that voice, you know?

[12:58] Pearl Chiarenza

Yeah, that's so powerful, because one of the things, like, growing up, like, I grew in a household where if my parents got in an argument, they didn't talk for two weeks. You walk on eggshells, sometimes it could go for a month, and then you come home and be like, oh, everything's fine, they're all talking. I'm like, what is going on here? So I met my husband, and, you know, I... That's all I knew how to communicate. And so, when he would... When we would have a challenge or whatever, and I wouldn't talk, finally he's like, okay, fine, I'm gonna have the conversation for you. And he'd say stuff like, I didn't want to say that. So fast forward, and we have our kids. My kids have spent a summer with my parents, and my parents, I love them to death, but they can't be grandparents. They still want to be parents. And, to the point that my...

We went on vacation, my mom and dad watched the boys. And, my mom goes, you have to talk to Matthew. I'm like, why? What happened? Well, when he goes to bed, he plays with his toys, and then he's playing with the army men. I go, Ma. Do you remember when I was a little girl, I had the blanket, I rubbed the little ribbon part? I'm like, that's what he's doing, but he's a boy, you know? And so, so fast forward, after my kids have spent some time, at one point, they were sitting, we were doing something, and I said something to them about something they'd done, and they go, you sound like Papa. And it, like, triggered me. Like, I was like, I don't want to be my father. And after the third time them saying that over a course of time, I said, okay, wait. We have to not do this. Can we create a code word?

So if you think mom sounds like Papa, you use the code word, because I don't want to feel like Papa. It hurts mom's feelings. And so, we came up... We're big Buffalo Bills fans, so we came up with the word Buffalo. Well, the cool thing out of that, Jaclyn, was that when they would say buffalo, it took my... I didn't go to my dad. I went to, okay, so why did you say buffalo? What about what I just said or did made you want to say buffalo, right? And I remember one time, you know, my oldest son, he had some struggles, because he was adopted. Matt was the only mixed-race child in our family and also his biological family, and he was the only child out of 5 kids from his bio family that was given up for adoption. He was considered the middle child at that time. So he had a lot of struggles.

So at one time, he was saying something or whatever, and I went, 'Buffalo', because he kept saying, it's all your fault, and I went, buffalo, and he looks at me like I said something shocking. He goes, whoa, why did you say buffalo? I go, listen, let's talk about something. I said, this finger here? Yeah, you can point at me, I'm not perfect. I'm a mom, I'm gonna make mistakes, I'm human. This finger here, it's both of us. So, these three fingers you're pointing back at me, they're you. Look in the mirror, and let's talk about what's on your mind. And he just looked at me, so that little change of going from, you sound like Papa to Buffalo, like, changed the dynamics of conversation.

[15:29] Jaclyn Strominger

Oh, I love that. I absolutely love that. But it's true, it's like using... Using the voice, and... And... And being able to communicate, it's so important, and, you know, so going back to, like, what you're doing for this work, it's the words that we say to ourselves, right? And the voices that we say to ourselves that really, really matter. So, you know, in the work that you're doing, and for people who are listening right now. You know, who feel that maybe they have that success, but yet something feels off. What's that one thing you could challenge them to say no to so they can say yes to something in the next 24 hours?

[16:14] Pearl Chiarenza

Well, I would first say the one thing I love to do when I start out with my clients is their joy list. And that's where I started out, like, what brings you joy? And... And it's not just saying, oh, music brings me joy, right? Well, music... Why does music bring you joy, right? And then when you answer that, well, why does that... Like, keep asking yourself, well, why... When you get the answer, well, why that answer? Why that answer? And then what happens, I did this with a client, music, really what it was. It was the harmony of the music that reminded her of the harmony she wanted to have in her life. Right? So, how do we get to the harmony in our life? And so, we start with a joy list. Like, when was the last time you did anything on your joy list?

And when I said to her, I go, well, what kind of things bring you harmony? Going outside for a walk, doing yoga classes. When was the last time you did a yoga class? A year ago. Why don't you just go to one yoga class? Like, starting with that joy list, and ask yourself, like, write it down, and then re-ask yourself, well, why does that bring me joy? Why did that part of that bring me joy. You could start out with one thing, and then by the time you get to the end, it could just be, I just need to go out and sit out in my car and not go in the house before I walk inside, because it's chaos in my house right now, the kids will probably need homework or whatever. Or if you're a high-achiever professional woman. Maybe you haven't delegated to your team recently, because you've lost the trust in yourself to trust them.

And so let's talk about that. Yeah, because delegation is huge, and that's actually what makes a good leader, is when you can trust your team to say, you know what, you might do it differently than me, so let me give you the opportunity to do that. Because when we uplift others, we uplift ourselves, is what I believe.

[17:48] Jaclyn Strominger

Oh, I try... It's so true, it's like, you know, there's, you know, we talk... I think it's a book. I remember it being a children's book, but it's about, you know, the empty cup, right? Like, and when you, you know, like, you're... You need to fill your cup with positivity, and then you... The... When the cup is drained, you don't feel good. But when you keep filling your cup, it's... With... By, you know, giving somebody else a compliment, or doing, you know. Something good. It just... It's amazing. When you lift other people up, you feel really, really good. It just feels.

[18:26] Pearl Chiarenza

Yeah. You can't give the overflow if you're not giving to yourself. And the really powerful thing about this whole message, you know, we want to be the examples, if you're a mom or a dad, you want to be the examples to your kids, but you also want to be it to your employees to show the trust and everything. And we never know, like, we always look, am I doing it the right way? That's one of my, you know, one of the things, like, as I was going through my journey and saying yes, I was putting boundaries around, you know. Even my own kids and my husband, like... You know, I asked my clients, I started looking, I started saying. What am I doing? And that's the other part, too, you could ask yourself, too. If I'm not here tomorrow, what are my family and friends gonna say they saw me do for myself?

Not what they saw me do for everybody else, not that I volunteered, not when I got the award here or there, but what did I do for self? And if I don't have anything, stop giving from the cup, because you're not doing the overflow. And the really cool thing for me is. It's cool... It sounds weird to say cool when I'm gonna tell you what I'm gonna tell you. It sounds really weird to say cool. I needed the affirmation on July 23rd 4 years ago, my husband and my older son, Matthew, they were in the garage, and they were working on their business, and Matt says, Mom, can you throw me a water bottle? I tossed a water bottle to him, and he said, man. Not only have you figured out your stuff - he used a different word - but you can finally throw something.

And so that was his confirmation of me to say, hey, we see you, you're doing the things you're supposed to do, and you know, he saw me speaking on stage, and all that stuff. My other son, Nate, he thinks I'm crazy, doesn't want me out there, don't talk about me, he's very quiet, like I used to be, right? Not anymore. So, unfortunately, two days later, Jaclyn. That affirmation I needed to lean into it a lot, because we lost Matthew two days later in a tragic car accident. And in Matthew's passing, I didn't get the knock at the door. I found out on the news, unfortunately, Matthew was unfortunately racially profiled in his accident. And, and I had... And so that whole process of seeing it, you know, everything grew, it's not a club I wanted to be in, but I know I said it sounded cool.

Because I needed that to continue living the life I had started, the life that he saw. That was him and God saying, I'm about to put you through something, the worst thing in your life. But I'm giving you this: you're on this earth for a purpose, and you've already started the purpose, you need to keep the purpose going. And that's why today, I speak to women, and I tell them, stop doing all this stuff. Stop showing up for everybody else, because at the end of the day, when you're not here, somebody's gonna slide into your seat at work, somebody's gonna do all the things you're doing at your job, your kids are gonna figure out how to make dinner, your husband's gonna figure out how to do the laundry. They're not gonna figure out how to get back time with you.

And I'm blessed that I got that affirmation from him 2 days before, because I'm telling you, every day I get up, and I remind myself, I have to do this for me first, before I can even show up for my clients.

[21:22] Jaclyn Strominger

Right, that is so true. Pearl, I'm so sorry for the loss. I can't even imagine it - and I don't want to imagine it. My deepest condolences.

[21:30] Pearl Chiarenza

Thank you. It's not a club I want anybody to join me in.

[21:43] Jaclyn Strominger

But it's amazing that you had that affirmation.

[21:47] Pearl Chiarenza

Thank you. Yes, it's amazing I had that. I needed that from God and from him.

[21:54] Jaclyn Strominger

Yeah. So I'm curious: between what you're building, the community you're creating, and even going through that horrible tragedy, what have you learned about the role of relationships and community - and how they play into becoming successful without isolation, while building those connections for good?

[22:30] Pearl Chiarenza

Yeah, I... Well, I really believe in doing something philanthropic when you're doing something for your business, so get connected with a nonprofit that's close to your heart. I believe in that. I actually coach for nonprofits as well. I love coaching here locally. We have the Mary Martha House, and it's for women who are rebuilding their life, right? And so, I love helping them. And, when you... When you think about your balcony, or your back porch. Who do you... My friend Lisa taught me about this. Who do you want on that back porch? And that's what I really lean into with my clients, is who should be on there. But we also have to remember that there are seasons. Some of those people are going to come off that porch.

They should no longer be in your life, or whatever the reason is that doesn't align up with your values or your mission, or maybe it's just that that time has passed to be together. The bottom line is, if... Go back to the cup, like, is it bringing you joy? And if it is, circle around. I... My legacy, I want to leave behind. It's funny, I was talking with a friend the other day, I said, I don't know, I'm going to be 62 years young in October. And I was like, you know. I am watching my balcony get smaller, and I don't know if it's age and, you know, the work... I know it's the work I'm doing, and partly age, that I'm coming into this maturity of going, hmm, should you really be on my balcony? And that's the work... Like, that's that work about when you say yes to yourself on that joy list.

Like, when you audit that joy list. The people who are supposed to be on there are gonna be on there. And manifestation is real, it's not a joke. If you manifest what you want in your world, it's gonna happen. And, like, just recently, I looked... Like, literally looked at my counter, and I was like. Oh my gosh, I didn't realize I wrote down and asked for this, like, 4 or 5 months ago. And so, that's what we do, and I do a retreat, we have our 10th annual retreat coming up in September, and we're leaning into Legacy this year. This is our last retreat that we're doing in the manner that we do it. We're pivoting our retreats. So, we're really leaning into the 10-year legacy that we're leaving behind at the Say Yes Retreat. And we're leaning into the next chapter. But we're laying it at the feet; we're gonna... We're gonna talk to your inner child.

We don't go back and honor what she's been through, or he's been through. And then we're gonna talk to who she is today, or he is today, and where does the next path go? But we're gonna introduce you to your 85-year-old self. She's sitting there waiting for you to show up, and I'm like, I got less than 20 years to meet her. So what is my next 20 years gonna look like, right? I don't want to sit on a porch and sit in a rocking chair, and I have a beautiful porch. I don't want to do that. I want to be still impacting while I'm enjoying my life with my family. And so that's what we're going to do, and when you get in and we do your joy list, we audit that joy list, so that you can start introducing that joy of that life that you want to that 85-year-old self.

[25:14] Jaclyn Strominger

Yeah, I love that. I absolutely love it. You know, and I love what you're doing, and I love the fact that you have this retreat. So... You know, I guess one kind of, like, big last question I kind of want to ask, What does being truly Unstoppable and creating success on your own terms mean to you today?

[25:36] Pearl Chiarenza

That's a good... You just gave me chills when you asked that question. What does it mean to me today? It means that I'm doing what I want to do for me first, which includes, like, I've got on my calendar a once-a-month massage, a once-a-month chiropractor appointment, those little things. I have to make sure I'm showing up for me on my calendar first, and then it means spending time, you know, with my family, traveling. My youngest is now married, and he'll be married 2 years, I think, this October, and so spending that time, intentional time, with them.

But creating the space that I still get to do the things I love to do, which includes coaching, includes speaking on stage, it includes non-profit things that I do, and then the most important thing, and I know it sounds weird in the order, is that I make sure that my husband and I, that we have intentional time together, and that we're spending that time. It's funny, we have a... We have somewhat of an empty nester house. My oldest son's friend, he comes back and forth, so he's here with us. Like, Chuck said the other day, do you know we haven't had an empty house since July 1st? I'm like, oh, we need to do something about that.

And it's not nothing bad, you know, but making sure that he's heard, because the one thing we should be also making sure is, yes, ourselves first, but those important around us, we need to make sure that they have that space to have that conversation, and Chuck and I do that. You know, when Matt passed, he came home one day, and he's like... I was like, how was your day? And he's like, life. And I was like, life, like... What does that mean? And I'm like, oh, are you missing Matt? And he said, yeah. So ask those questions so that those closest to you know that, yes, you're putting up this cup that you're doing yourself, but as you get ready to fill from your overflow you're gonna have, make sure you're showing up for them intentionally in the overflow.

[27:31] Jaclyn Strominger

Yeah, that's so true. I really love that. And so, you know, that's such a... I love that answer that you gave. For those that are listening today, and who's thinking, I need more Pearl in my life, because I'm sure there are people that are saying that right now, where is the best place for them to go to connect with you, to learn more about what you are doing?

[27:54] Pearl Chiarenza

I'm all over social media, of course, but the best place to go is to WSLiving.com, so that's WSLiving.com, and you can find us there, and you can connect me there. It will give you an opportunity to book a call with me, whatever works for you, absolutely, I would love to do that for you.

[28:13] Jaclyn Strominger

Awesome. Fantastic. And I will make sure that we have that in the show notes. So, listeners, please, do me the favor and make sure that you do go and connect with Pearl. And, you know, she does offer a complimentary call, and then for those of you that are our subscribers and who have taken that step to support the show, we actually have something extra special that Pearl has offered. So she does the 7-Day Reset, and you can use the code - I'll put it in the show notes - it's RESET, and you get $50 off that program. So, those are for our subscribers and our special listeners. So, Pearl, thank you so much for joining me today, and thank you for the reminder for us to say yes to ourselves, because it's such an important one. And then for everybody who is listening today, here is my challenge for you. Don't just listen to this episode and move on.

Ask yourself: Who do I need to say yes to right now? And who do I need to say no to? And what is one action you can take today, and who is one person that you know that needs to hear this message and share it with them, please? And if it's multiple people, share it with all of them. And then, lastly, we do love our show's supporters, so thank you if you are a show supporter. It is a small nominal fee of $3 a month. It allows us to continue to do what we do. I will put the link into the show notes. You get the extra special content. And you also get, obviously, a great badge that you can put on your social media, but more importantly, again, it helps us give you the best show possible and continue having great guests on. This is Unstoppable Success. I so appreciate each and every one of you.

Keep sharing, keep listening, keep supporting, and until next time, keep building the relationships, taking the actions, and creating the success that truly makes you unstoppable. So, again, thank you, Pearl, and thank you, listeners, for being here.

[30:25] Pearl Chiarenza

Thank you!