Jaclyn Strominger 0:42

Hello, everybody, and welcome to another amazing episode of the Unstoppable Success Podcast. I'm your host, Jaclyn Strominger. And as you know, on this podcast, we hear from amazing individuals, leaders, professionals who share their tips, their tricks, their insights on how you can have unstoppable success. And today I have the absolute pleasure of introducing you to Heather McNally. She is so amazing. So let me give you a little history about or a little bio about Heather to give you a little bit who she is, because you're going to want to connect with her. She is a transformational guide who works with women to break through limiting beliefs, reconnect with who they truly are, create the lives that feel happy, healthy, and whole. Her work explores identity, self-trust, boundaries, nervous system awareness, and the unconscious patterns that keep even highly successful women and men stuck. And Heather is truly passionate about helping women move out of autopilot and into the greater alignment and confidence and fulfillment. Welcome to Unstoppable Success, Heather. Thank you so much, Jacqueline.

Heather McNally 2:00

I'm thrilled to be here with you today.

Jaclyn Strominger 2:03

I am so excited to have you here. Oh God. Okay. So tell us, Heather, a little bit about your journey and what led you to the work you are doing today.

Heather McNally 2:15

Okay, so let's go with the short version here. So I grew up,

— How Early Experiences Shape Our Beliefs

Heather McNally 2:19

I grew up in a home that was, I had an abuser. My father was my abuser. He was very narcissistic, he was physically abusive, and he was verbally psychologically abusive. And I'll be honest, the the physical, yeah, it hurt. Yeah, it scared me. I didn't want to be near him, but the psychological, that's what did the big damage to me. And so what happened is I grew up in an environment, it was actually very kind of duality, because I had my mom who was amazing, but she was a human being. And I had my father who was narcissistic and didn't see anything wrong with any of what he did. And so even though I had the support of my mom, I had my father telling me who I was. And so let's face it, our belief systems come into our lives by the age of seven, most of them. And it's just our brain trying to adapt to live in this world, right? And so we didn't do anything wrong. Right. Yeah. We didn't do anything wrong, but we have to survive. So our brain is like, all right, what information can I take in that's going to help me figure out how to survive in this world and what I'm supposed to do and what I'm not supposed to do? So that's where you get these belief systems. That's my like two-second explanation of how that happens. And so you grow up thinking things like, Mine were, you're not worthy, you're not good enough. Nobody wants to see or hear you. You need to shut up, you need to sit down. You know, women are inferior to men. And it went on and on and on. And so growing up that way, you know, I really wanted to get out of the house. I couldn't wait to get out of the house. And I went to college. And my first semester in college, whoo, talk about not doing well. I was on the academic probation my first semester. I had like maybe a 1.2 GPA. And here's the thing: I was always the overachiever. I got the A's. I was the one who like, I didn't try to be the teacher's pet psychologically. I probably was reaching for that because I wanted to people please, but I was also enjoying school. I've always loved school. I still love to take classes. But you know, so I go to college. My first semester, it was like, oh, I did nothing. Nobody's gonna be able to tell me what to do. I don't have anyone controlling me. And I met who became my husband at 17 still. And yes, we are now in October, we'll be together 36 years and married 31. Whoop, whoop. And it's it's it's a great thing. Yes, we want to kill each other sometimes, but overall, we adore each other. We have a great marriage, we have a great little family. But I met him and he was the first person that kind of like allowed me to be me and didn't judge me, didn't tell me that I shouldn't, you know. And so my, you know, my learning about who I was and what I could be versus who I had been told I was was a very gradual process for me. Really, really slow gradual process.

unknown 5:16

Yeah.

Jaclyn Strominger 5:17

Okay. So I'll just gonna say, but you did get your grades back up.

Heather McNally 5:20

Oh, I got my grades back up. I graduated over a 3.0. I don't even remember what it was anymore. And I loved school. I actually love learning. It was just that, like, all right, you've been under my thumb all your life. Now you have this freedom to do what you want. And of course, I was 17 when I went to school, turned 18 while I was there, and it was like, whoo, I can do whatever I want.

Jaclyn Strominger 5:43

Right, right. So, so so I I'm curious though, about you know, the the obviously the transformation has has happened over time, right? So I you know, and I'm I'm kind of curious what role and how, you know, good or bad, whatever, you know, did your husband help and that time your boyfriend helped play a role in that? And and I'm asking really for the question because where my brain is going is is so many of us have crazy relationships with our parents. And sometimes the partner that we have, boyfriend, husband, whatever, may not like our parents and says things that can can hurt the relationship more versus versus help the relationship. So I'm just kind of curious as to how how you have how that navigated, you know, for you.

Heather McNally 6:41

So I will say that all my life I knew I didn't want this for myself. And it's um definitely not the quote norm, because people who grow up in an abusive environments tend to seek out the same kinds of things in their lives, not because they want it, but it's it's what they feel they deserve. It, you know, you're taught that you know anything else, right? They don't you're taught certain things, so okay, that's what I deserve. I knew from a very young age I didn't want this. And I actually went to my senior of high school and I said, I can't do this for another year. I don't, I don't, and I mean, I'm I'm calm here. I was I lost my mind then. Like I was screaming, crying, ranting. And she said, You have one year left of this, I have the rest of my life. And I will say, I think like I just got goosebumps just now, and I think that it fed into me knowing this is not what I want for my life. So when I met my husband, then boyfriend, the interesting thing about him for me was that we could just sit and talk. And I was kind of intimidated by men, to be honest, even though I was always around males in my life, you know, you're around males and females, but and I had a lot of male friends actually, but I was intimidated by anybody who was outside of that friend zone. But he and I just sat and talked for hours, like immediately, we just connected. And he was definitely somebody who was nothing like my father, and he was like very sure of himself at such a young age, and he knew what he wanted, and he didn't really have that like I care what everybody thinks about me, which to me, I was a hundred percent the opposite. So he gave me space and allowed me to be who I was, and that meant good, bad, ugly, hideous, beautiful, all of it.

Jaclyn Strominger 8:27

Right, good, bad, ugly. I was all over the all the things, yeah.

Heather McNally 8:31

And he just allowed me to be me and he accepted me for that, and he listened to it and he talked to me about it. And it was like having my best friend, a confidant, a therapist, you know, my love, everything all rolled up in one. And the beautiful thing is we've grown together and we're still the same values, we have the same values in our lives that we did when we were younger. And so that's just we've brought each other along, and that's been so beautiful. And to see a man who does not treat other people terribly, does not treat his spouse terribly, does not, you know, think he's better than everybody in and and to have the same values and the same things that we want in life, it's been beautiful. Now, don't get me wrong, like I said, there are moments, but yeah.

Jaclyn Strominger 9:20

No, but that's really amazing. And it's really great. I'm I'm kind of glad that you said that and share and thank you, thank you, thank you so much for sharing that. And and listeners, I I kind of want you to understand that this is a little bit of a nugget, which is really, you know, uh and I feel like it's the overarching theme. It's it's it's finding that voice inside of you, finding that voice inside of you to move on, to be, to go beyond whatever has been either stopping you, but to find the voice that you can that you have within yourself to be your biggest cheerleader for you, right?

Heather McNally 9:57

Right. And that because when I was younger and I thought all those things that you're a piece of crap, nobody wants to hear what you have to say, you're only here to please people. He showed me that that wasn't the case. But then he allowed me to actually start being who I was and start figuring that out and be able to act in accordance, right, in alignment with that, as opposed to you're only here for X, Y, Z, and nobody else wants to think about you, hear about you, or anything other than that. And so that was the beginning, definitely, of me or learning my voice. I will say it's taken me a long time to get to where I am now, but and that's why I do what I do because I can see that you can go from I hated myself. When I say I hated myself, I had the SI, you know, I had the thoughts, I had the

— The Way You Talk to Yourself Matters

Heather McNally 10:47

desire not to be here, I had all of that. And to go from a place where I truly hated myself to like, I can actually say I love myself now. And that's wild for me, considering how long I spent in that hate, hate, hate area. And I was the person who, you know, would show everybody that I know that I'm awful and a piece of crap and nobody wants to be my friend outwardly and say these awful things about myself so that I could kind of like let them know that I know this, you don't have to tell me. But what I did was I hurt myself even more and I made people go, ooh, ooh, I don't know if I want to be around that kind of energy. Because it was hard. It was hard.

Jaclyn Strominger 11:31

So but so this is a really big thing. Like, I know you would have gotten to where you are with or without him, but great that you have him because he's a great guy. And yes, like listeners, I know Heather also she's a friend of mine and and work with her, but she's awesome. And I've met her husband, and he's great. But you know, but one thing that I that I that I really want to highlight here is and it's love hate oneself, right? Like love or hate, and the energy that you bring to the table really, really matters. So whether you and and I and and listeners, the doubt you have in yourself or in your business, you have to learn to wipe that away so that the positivity comes out because the doubt and the negativity it's it people will people can see it and read it in you and you and in and in the energy that you bring to the room when you show up. So it's not and and the change doesn't happen overnight. So I just want you to all know that, right? So I I like for you to share because it is such a big nugget, you know, and you've shared a little bit of it, but just to really kind of hone in on this the you that you hated versus the you that you love, how has your life been different now that you are in this?

Heather McNally 13:03

Oh my word, it's like it's amazing the difference. I can't, it's so hard to describe in certain ways. Like, I find so much joy in something like seeing a hummingbird at my hummingbird feeder. And yep, as I as I get when I and I know we've talked about this before, hummingbirds are so cute. I get just as much joy out of that as I am like going on a trip somewhere. And if you can get to a place where that, and I'm not saying your life is 24-7, I don't believe in that. I believe that we all have feelings, things happen, and we have to feel those feelings, but you can get through it. You don't need to live there, you don't need to land there. And I used to land there, live there, dig, dig the biggest basement there, and my house was like cement. And to be able to say now that I get so much joy out of seeing my dogs be excited when I come in the house, seeing, you know, that I get to go and do something on a beautiful day, even just going outside and sitting outside for a few minutes. And so when I could say that I have that joy now, where I can look back and say, I had joyful things in my life, but I didn't truly appreciate them because I hated myself so much that I sat and I beat myself up for everything I did wrong, what I considered wrong. That, you know, oh, I said the wrong thing. Oh, I went outside and I should have had my hair done. Oh, I, you know, everything I would beat myself up over now, and I'm not saying this was an overnight thing, this took me decades, but everything I have gone through has taught me something. And that's where I think it's so important to look at things and say, I can learn from this, even though it was a horrible situation. Like, for example, my mom went through years of being ill, getting a lung transplant, and a huge roller coaster from there. And that was years, and I was her caretaker and I was her daughter, and I was she was my best friend, and I was her advocate. And going through that experience, it was awful to watch. But at the same time, it was like beautiful. If if that makes sense, it was moments of us sharing gorgeous moments together, moments of us sharing secrets, moments of us just holding each other's hand in silence, moments of me getting frustrated when she called me and said, Are you coming to do my pills? You know, and and all everywhere in between. But it was beautiful because I was able to see her grace and her her power of choice and her appreciating what she had in her life. And I could look at it and say, these are things that she did that I want to, you know, take

— Reinvention, Joy & Becoming Someone New

Heather McNally 15:49

in as something in my life, but also here are things she didn't do that I want to embrace because I have the opportunity to do it. And so I learned so much through every part of my life that got me to this point. And the joy that I feel in my life now is just the person I was back then would not recognize me. I still have the same values, right? But I I live so differently.

Jaclyn Strominger 16:17

But that's a key thing too, listeners that that Heather's just said, you know, the values are the same. Like you can change, you can change, but the values of who you are and what really matter most, that's what we call our achievement code, because that those values will take you through the good and the bad. And it helps you see the right. And it actually, I think it helps steer you on the right path because you know you want to live the values that you that you believe in. And sometimes the values, different values take different dominance and priority, but but they're still there, right? And that's really important to know your know the values that matter most to you, and and know that they can change a bit as you change. But I think that's so important.

Heather McNally 17:04

So Heather, yeah, that's one of the things I always work on with people is let's talk about your values because I thought I knew what mine were when I sat down and figured them out. And I I was actually a little surprised at what they were. So, but they're really important to discover because it helps you live in alignment.

Jaclyn Strominger 17:20

And that's a key thing. To live in alignment is so important because when when you are out of alignment, that is one of the things that steers you in the wrong direction, and you're not living to your full truth. And so getting into alignment is so important. And I'm glad that you brought that. I'm really glad that you brought that up. So, you know helping women and getting to where you are now. You know, what made you? I mean, I your your own journey. So, what was the time that you said, you know what? I'm ready to help others.

Heather McNally 18:01

It was uh it's been a little bit of a process, but the big inspiration for it came when my mom was ill and when she had had a lung transplant, and whoo, that was a lot. Like we were waiting for it, waiting for it, and we got the call. All right, it's it's time. And we went to the hospital, and we're in the waiting room, and they're going through all the possibilities and all the things. And I thought, is she even gonna make it off the table? And it was like very you face your mortality, even though it wasn't my situation. You really see like this could happen. Like I might not get to see her again, and then she survived that and she did so well for a while. And as we went through this process, and I became her caretaker and her advocate and her healthcare proxy and doing her nurse. I mean, I was everything, and I wouldn't change it for a second. But what I started to see was I had a I had a message. Now, I didn't necessarily want to be on a stage or doing a podcast or doing all these things, but what I started was, well, maybe I could start a blog. And this was you know, years ago. My mom will have been gone 10 years in a couple months. And during that time, I was thinking about these things, so I just kept putting it off and putting it off, and you know, but I was like, maybe I can do a blog. And I was like, if I can help one person, whether it be advocacy or finding your, you know, purpose or anything. And then over time, I I reached out to somebody who became a business coach for me, and she helped me see that we like, no, I didn't just want to have a blog, I wanted to work with people, and so that led into all right, maybe I'll become a coach. And that led into, but my message is so big, maybe I want to speak occasionally. And then before you knew it, you know, so it's taken me years, of course, but when you have that spark, I think that you can't ignore it because if you have that spark, you're you're meant to be thinking about it, right? The spark comes up, the idea comes into your mind, and you go, you've got to say, all right, yeah, I have fear around this, but what's gonna happen looking at my mom? What's gonna happen if I don't? What am I gonna miss out on if I don't? What am I gonna be saying when I'm in her spot talking to my kids, my friends, my family? I don't want to say, Oh, I had this idea and I just thought about it for so many years and I never did it. So you step into it even though you're terrified. And that's what's been happening for me to get to a place where I'm at now where I'm like, I'm loving this. Like, I love podcasting, I love having these conversations, I love helping people, I love what I'm able to do, and I am good at it, which if you told me that 10, 15 years ago, I would have been like, yeah, you're out of your mind. But it's going through and doing things that, yeah, you're terrified, but do it anyway because how else do you become confident? How else do you know you can do it? And that's kind of like what it was. It was the spark, and yeah, it took me time, but now as I do things now, I'm getting faster at doing them because I have the confidence that I know that I can do the things that I was terrified of before. Look what you have done, look what you have done. It's proof, right?

Jaclyn Strominger 21:27

It's proof, right? So, you know, if you could paint the picture of the ideal person that you would like to help, who is that?

Heather McNally 21:35

Uh so for me, it's women who feel like they have lost that spark, like they don't have a spark. They question themselves, they doubt themselves, they don't think they're doing enough, they've put themselves on the back burner, they will help everybody else. And by the end of the day, there's nothing left for them. They haven't taken the time to shower, they haven't taken the time to feed themselves, they haven't taken the time to sit and do a craft or an art or go for a hike or you know, do the things that would light them up, and it's not selfish to. Do those things. It's what you need. Your body needs you, your mind needs you to take care of yourself. You're not going to be good. And, you know, the cliche of put your oxygen mask on before you help anybody else. It's true. What are you going to do when you pass out? What are you going to do when you

— Put Your Own Oxygen Mask On First

Heather McNally 22:37

are so physically depleted, mentally depleted, that you can't get up and do anything? And I mean, when I had my first son, that's what I did. I was a stay-at-home mom. I had stopped working and I became a stay-at-home mom. And I remember at five months old, he was five months, and I called my husband one afternoon and I just started crying. And he's like, What is it? Now I wanted to be a stay-at-home mom. We were thrilled that I got to, we were both thrilled that I got to do this. And I loved every second of it, even the hard moments. But I called him and I just started crying. He's like, Oh my God, what's wrong? And I was like, This is hard. And he's like, okay. He's like, what do you want to talk about? And you know, that's where it was, I wasn't eating, I wasn't showering. It's three o'clock in the afternoon. I hadn't eaten anything. I hadn't showered. I hadn't done anything but take care of him, put him down for naps, and clean the house and do the laundry and do the dishes and do everything. And I lost any care for myself. And the problem there is, how am I going to take care of this baby that's depending on me? How am I going to be a partner to my husband who adores me and I adore him, but I have nothing left to give. And so that's the woman I want to talk to. I want to talk to the woman who's like she's at the bottom of everything and she hasn't done anything for herself and she's lost who she is. She doesn't understand that she needs to come back to who she truly is because she's there underneath all of it.

Jaclyn Strominger 24:06

Yeah. And and I just want to say that here's the thing, the thing about this woman. It doesn't just have to be a mom who is, but it's it's it could be somebody who's in a workplace. Because we all know sometimes in the workplace, we give, give, give, give, give as women. Sometimes we overgive, which is not necessarily what we should be doing. And we again, we still forget about ourselves. Right.

Heather McNally 24:34

Because any woman can find herself feeling all the same things, and her circumstances are different. Like when I worked full-time, I worked, it took me an hour and a half to get to work, and then an hour and a half to get home. And I was at work for eight and a half, nine hours. And by the time I got home, then I have to cook dinner. Then I have to clean up after. And I was like, I have nothing left to give. I'm exhausted. I don't even want to look at anybody. I don't want the phone to ring. I don't want, you know, and and then you put yourself last again. And that's what we as women have been socialized to do. And yes, there is a natural tendency in us to be caretakers, but you don't have to be a mom, you know, or you can be the mom whose kids have left the home and they're empty nesters. You and I both know about this. I'm an empty nester. And, you know, what do you do with yourself? Because now half of your purpose is gone and you're so used to giving and giving and giving. Now what do I do? Well, I've got to find 10 other things to keep myself busy. Well, no, you don't.

Jaclyn Strominger 25:32

No, right. You don't, you don't have to fill the time helping other people. You can use that time for yourself or use that time with your spouse. Use that time, you know, or or use that time to actually give back if you want to be, you know, do something philanthropic. That's a great time to do something that you're passionate about. Or, you know, it's it's interesting, like maybe it's finding something that you want to take a class in to learn more about. You know, I mean, I was kidding around the other day because I met with a friend of mine yesterday and and she said, Well, what are you gonna do? I mean, I'm like, Yeah, I know. It's like no more basketball games, no more, no more going on. Like, I'm like, oh, I'll actually be able to ski a whole day. I can go hike for a whole day. I mean, you know, there's things that you can do that are, you know, we we we have to remember that we all have a life to live and a life that we enjoy that so that when our time comes, that we can look back and say, you know, it was actually really good. You know, yeah, there was some, there was, there's always gonna be some good, some bad, some ugly, but the majority of it was beautiful.

Heather McNally 26:44

Yeah. And you know, when you go through the bad, I think that just makes you appreciate the good so much more. And so, yeah, we have our moments, but you just like I said, you don't plant your feet there, you don't put roots there, you don't build your house there, you feel it, and then you move through it. And you know, a feeling can take 90 seconds to go all the way through, but we tend to react on our feeling when we start feeling it, and it gives us these actions that we do. And sometimes those actions lead to, you know, results that we're not happy with because we didn't allow ourselves to feel it and go move through it and get to the other side and then be informed by it. And I think that's really important.

Jaclyn Strominger 27:28

Yeah, no, that's that's really true. It is, it's really true for us to we need to go through the whole process. Now, I have a little bit of insight, but and I know Heather's gonna share this, but you've got a couple of things that are coming up. So I want you to share because you've got some great things coming up.

Heather McNally 27:43

Yeah, yeah. So what is beautiful is as you become more confident in what you're doing in life, and for me right now, that's it's in my life too, my personal life, but also my business, especially. I have really been allowing myself to integrate what I've been feeling and who I have become and allow myself to work with that. And so that has led me to, all right, I need to work on my branding because it doesn't really reflect me right now. And so I've been working with somebody who's working on my branding and rebuilding my website to really reflect who I am and what I'm doing. And the beginning of my new launching as, you know, Heather with Fire is a new workshop that I've got coming up. And it's called A Return to You. Because here's the thing: I believe that we have those values deep inside of us. I believe that we have who we are at our core deep inside of us. And, you know, a lot of people say, Oh, I did a 360. And it's interesting when people say that because that means you've gone full circle and come right back around to where you are. And I got thinking about it and I said, you know what? Yeah, I've done a 180 where I've changed. I'm not the same person in terms of how I interact with the world and the and my confidence and all of that. But I have done that 360 because I've come back to that childlike curiosity that I had, that I've always had, and I allow myself to feel now. And so I'm integrating that into my business. So the return to you is come back to who you really are at your heart and soul level, where you belong, where you should live from, so that you are living in alignment. And that doesn't mean you have to become a whole different person. I'm still me. But what I've done is I've allowed myself to understand that, yeah, I've got intuition and it's there for a reason. Yes, I'm an empath and it's there for a reason. Yes, I work with people and I've gone through the experience and they've given me insight into the world. And yes, I've gotten education with coaching and with psychology and brain science and all these things. And I'm letting it all integrate into who I am. And that's where I'm starting from with this new workshop and all the things that I'm planning on doing that I've got a huge list from. And working with Jacqueline has really helped me like, all right, yeah, I'm gonna do that. Yeah, I'm gonna do that. Like, I can do that. Where I used to be like, oh my God, maybe I could become a coach. And I literally would go inside myself. Now I'm like, all these things that I get to do. Right. That's awesome.

Jaclyn Strominger 30:16

Okay, so let's just share with everybody when is the you have a workshop coming up, and we'll put a link to that in the show notes, and that's coming up in September, right?

Heather McNally 30:27

It's Wednesday, September 9th, and it's being held at 7 p.m. Eastern time because I'm in Massachusetts on the East Coast. So that's 7 p.m. to 8:30 p.m. So it's gonna be a 90-minute workshop, very interactive. I don't want to sit and teach, I don't want to sit and talk at. I want to tell you some information and see how it integrates into you and how you can feel through that. And it's a free workshop, so you get to come and do this and start seeing what could be possible for you.

Jaclyn Strominger 30:59

Yeah, it's which is awesome. And we'll put that in the show notes. And listeners, Heather is truly amazing and remarkable in what she does, and she has so much to give, and there's so much that you can glean from what she what she has to offer. So please make sure that you connect with her, take advantage of the free of the free workshop. And and I'm sharing, like, so you know, if if you could describe to our listeners, you know, what is the one thing that you feel if somebody could choose something

— Courage, Fear & Getting Out of Your Comfort Zone

Jaclyn Strominger 31:27

right now to do that would help them have unstoppable success, what would it be?

Heather McNally 31:32

Do something that you're afraid of, truly, because fear is just our mind. Our brain doesn't care to make us successful or live the happiest life. Our brain is literally here to keep us safe. So it's gonna try to stop you because oh my god, that's unfamiliar and I don't know. And like I said, I was like, you know, going inside myself, do something that scares you, even just a little bit. It doesn't have to be your biggest fear. I'm terrified of heights. I have not gotten that under my belt yet. But little, you know, little fears, just little things that you can do it and then prove to yourself, like, oh my God, I did it and it wasn't that bad. Actually, I really loved it. Right.

Jaclyn Strominger 32:12

It was fun, it was cool, right? Right. Yes, I love that. Do something that is getting out of your comfort zone. Right. And that could be reaching out to somebody, like who's that person that you would love to have as a client and you just have never reached out to them? Reach out to them today. Like my friend calls that your chicken list, right? Oh, yeah, your chicken list. I call it your chicken list too. Who make the chicken list? Like right, right? You know, we're too we're afraid to, we're afraid, we're we're chicken to call them. But yeah, make that the chicken list and reach out and you know, however you want to phrase it, but reach out to that list of people.

Heather McNally 32:51

You never know what it can bring you.

Jaclyn Strominger 32:52

Yeah. And I always say with that chicken list, it's the people that you least expect to respond will respond, and the ones you think will respond won't. So you just don't know, but just reach out to the chicken list. So, Heather, thank you so much for being an amazing guest on the Unstoppable Success Podcast. And we will put all of your links in the show notes. And listeners, I am sure that you have gleaned some great information from this. So if you can please do me the favor of sharing this episode with a friend or a colleague who needs to hear this message. And then we have a little extra something that we will share with our subscribers. Heather hasn't yet told me what it is, but trust me, our subscribers will get extra something special just for being a subscriber. And if you're not yet a subscriber to the show, hit subscribe. And if you pay for the monthly subscription at $3 a month, you get a lot of information, special, special information. You get a badge, you get extra show notes, uh extra information. Again, that so you want to definitely be a subscriber, and that also helps us keep the show uh going and having the great guests that we have on the show. So we appreciate it.

Heather McNally 34:06

And can I shout out to Jaclyn? You are fantastic, you are amazing, not just as a friend, as a business, you know, coach. You really contributed to my life and to my confidence in what I'm doing. It's been fantastic.

Jaclyn Strominger 34:22

Thank you so much. And I just love working with Heather. I love working with you. So, listeners, again, reach out to Heather, subscribe to the show, share the show. And then if you're not, again, we've got a school community. We'll put all of those links in the show notes. Again, Heather, thank you so much for being a great guest. And listeners, thank you so much for listening. This is the Unstoppable Success podcast. I'm your host, Jaclyn Strominger, and we want to help you leap to your greatest success. Here's to your unstoppable success. You've been listening to the unstoppable success podcast with Jaclyn Strominger. Subscribe, share, and keep building your unstoppable life. See you at the top.